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Walk a mile in my shoes........

Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:59 PM EDT
health, weight, soul-searching, self-exploration, living-again, self-change
By DragonWoman

1

Hangin on a wire some days

Hello =}

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I have been trying to think of a way to celebrate the 2nd anniversary of my time on Newsvine (not until September). Yet for the last couple months (since mid-March) I have not been on here all that much. Part of which has to do with changes in my job. Most of which has to do with change.

Don't get me wrong....

............I miss Newsvine like hell

Especially at work. It was a way to fill in time where all I needed to do was keep an eye on the system. Our offices moved into a new building and my "station" is now in a fish bowl where anyone (especially bosses) can see what you are doing. Not only that, but my back is to the "windows" and they can see what is on my computer screen.

Just a little example of how the situation is:

I have been staying off Newsvine and Facebook (no Internet at all), but decided 1/2 hour before end of shift to play Spider Solitaire. Borring, mindless, yet keeps my fingers busy. I was also watching the system and my email for any issues. My boss came in and told me that I had been on the game too long because someone complained to him. I was pissed. The truth, I was doing my job by staying alert.

I bit back most of my dragon's tongue.....most of it.

So why would I stay there?

The Gym.

As some of my friends here know, I am a large (obese) woman. Not mincing words; at my largest, I weighed 380 lbs. It is not the number 380, it is the 20 lbs. The 20 more lbs before I break 400. In all my life as a fat woman, all the things I never gave a damn about while waiting for the death promised us fatties, finally something scared the @!$%# out of me. 400lbs. Just 20 lbs away. And I am @!$%#ing sick and tired of the pills I have to take for diabetes.

One time, before diagnosis, I dropped 80lbs. I went from 340 to 260. I nearly cried looking at the scale when it went below 300. I had not seen that since my 2nd year in college, in 1987. Most students put on the "freshman 15". I who graduated high school at 250 lbs, discovered the freshman 50, and it steadily progressed from there.

You don't really notice the changes. One day you look down and say "How? I don't feel that much bigger than before". Then you look in a reflection in a darkened window, and say "Holly @!$%#.... Is that my ass... and another....and another????". So I simply dropped many condiments like, butter, mayo, and pretty much anything with lots of fat in it. I never worked out. I dropped 80lbs. And yes I nearly cried looking at the drop below 300, and again I asked "How?" When I looked down, all I saw was the massive stomach blocking the view of my feet.

That @!$%#ing scale lies!!!! It is some kind of cruel joke!!!! WTF!!!!!!

Then I leave a bathroom stall, wash my hands, and start to walk out of the bathroom at work. I gaze over at that big ass mirror, and say out loud "Where the hell did my ass go!!!"

  • Yes sitting on the bus felt different.
  • Yes I had a little bit more energy.

But where the hell did my mushy tushy go???????

Well I went home the next morning (I worked 3rd shift), took off my clothes and looked in the mirror again......

Oh.....

My ass fell between my legs. Wiggle and watch the skin shimmer...... damn!

Skin is unforgiving.

It does not understand the struggle you go through to right the wrongs you made for so many years.

Here is the thing. I decided to use foods like bread sticks, yogurt, fruit juices instead of Mountain Dew, Jolt, and high fats to keep me going at night. That was until I got sick again. As a child I never had ear infections. For a few years since first working as a cashier, I began yearly bouts of bronchitis, sinus infections, and ear infections. I had no insurance and relied on the doctor at the work site for a prescription, rather than spend another $425.00 to go to the ER. Not this time. This time, Doc-in-the-Box said no. I did finally get insurance. So I had to see a doctor for the first time in over 15 years. He ran a blood glucose test. It was 333. I was diagnosed.

How much did I change?

Not much. Oh I stopped anything at face value "too sweet". But like throughout my life, I have had no schedule. I ate few moments and until I could burst.... or felt like sleeping. I grew up poor and the one thing in abundance to the poor is starch. Starch turns to sugar.

But everything we ate for dinner included starches. Potatoes, spaghetti, rice, pasta, pasta, and oh yes mac-n-cheese. We had the "welfare" cheese. So all was covered in cheese.

I also discovered hidden sugars in food pandered to the "weight loosing" community. Yogurt filled with HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup).

I can not tell you how much I hate those @!$%#ing commercials promoting this @!$%# lately.

Who wants to eat yogart? Why are our foods so screwed around with? If it is not stuffed with HFCS, it is stuffed with Soy. How can we regulate what we eat, when we don't know what is hidden in it? How can we take responsibility for ourselves, when it is taken from us?

But if I am being honest, much of my issue has been with me.

We still eat starches.... WE. I can not change my family.

But......

How does one change them self? It is pretty hard, and no one makes it easy. My doctor is trying to shove the Gastric Bypass down my throat. I know when I shed over 200lbs, I will need surgery to remove all the unforgiving skin. Can a body take that many surgical procedures? Especially when I am diabetic.

  • Why do doctors now a days give up on people?
  • Do they get a commission for each one of these bypasses?
  • Do people change their habits when they have this procedure?

Not really.... and I have heard about deaths.

I want to live. That comes as a surprise to me who has made her bed on the sideline of life. I want to really live, and not really survive. Survival is surprisingly easy. I have been doing that since my father broke my heart.

I don't know if he is still alive.... I haven't been.

So now life and my job has presented me an option. They set up a full fitness center and my job moved 1.25 miles from my home. I walked to and from work the first day. It hurt like hell. The gym costs me $5 dollars a month (1.25 dollars a week) out of my check! How could I say no.

I have never before walked on a treadmill. I called it the walking machine....LOL =}

I held on to the bar for dear life as the gym assistant adjusted the setting to 1. I looked too fast, so she set it at .5 .....LMAO =}

I tried the Elliptical. Hella no! My legs are not strong enough. I hired the trainer at $25 each session. I have only had one session with her, but I was given a list of routines. Seriously, me working out routines. Counting out 2 sets of 20.

I currently foot press 160 lbs, shoulder press 8lb dumb bells. work 60 lb abdominal, 70 lb back extensions, among other things. Oh yes, I still walk to work. Not every day. Some days I have to carry a lot of things and I take the bus most of the way. But on 90 deg + days I have been walking to work. After 30 to 35 minutes I walk into air conditioning covered in sweat. Drink water. Then I work out with the weights for 20 to 25 minutes. Then hit the showers. Yes my job has showers.

I have also gone down to 365lbs (today).

It makes me want to pick that @!$%#ing scale up and shake it. I have been working out nearly every day for over 2 months. Maybe I am trading muscle for fat, but it is frustrating.

Ok, I sometimes have pizza for lunch (one slice... maybe 2), I had a smoothie yesterday.

What is depressing is my sugar has gone out of control again.... surprised?

I know there are many more changes I need to make. Namely intake. That is difficult when you live with others unwilling to change. I wake up in the morning with over 200 blood sugar. I know it is from carbs at night.... and changes with medication.

Most of the time I eat better than I ever had. There are these periodic moments of stress or changes in work s

It may sound like a bunch of excuses, but spend a day in my skin.

Walk a mile (and a quarter) in my shoes.

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DragonWoman

Ok, not really a vineversary posting, but most of this is a self-imposed rant

A little pissed at my laptop right now as the M key is sticking. go ahead and count all the m's..... I had to slam the key.

In my walks to work, I have been thinking of all the things I have wanted to right about.

Cha ... Cha... Changes....

(to quote David Bowie)

I think differently when I walk, yet forget by the end of the day.

There will no doubt be more to follow.

Please know that although I can not be on here all the time I will monitor. If someone does not play nice, I will boot you to the trash can.

I do gladly accept criticism and advice.

  • 11 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:04 PM EDT
Norcal2

My advice is keep doing what you are doing...trying and doing.

You can't ask more of yourself whether the goal you set up comes over a long period of time or doesn't. I think it is the goal that counts. There is much to contend with like:

How slow any given metabolism can be, but don't give up.

How eating differently does not feel right to anyone, thin or heavy set, but don't give up.

How exercising sucks until you learn to like it, so don't give up.

In the end the most important thing is your health. I always told my kids that if they don't reach or ask, it is a guaranteed "No". Grab your world and try not to allow anything to block your path. I admire your courage to take this on as it is not easy at all.

My final advice: Journal your mission a day at a time until one day you look up and your medical tests show you are heading in the right direction. That is the only important issue.

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:38 PM EDT
DragonWoman

All sounds good to me. The journal is something I have been thinking about.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT
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Sue-715551

I admire all the stuff you have been going thru, and applaud your determination to get in better health. We are all entitled to rant now and then, it is a healthy way to vent. there are some good substitutes for different foods online. Homemade breads are a good substitute for store-bought, as there is no sugar added, plus, carb-wise and calorie wise, it is better for you too. Pure honey within limits is a better substitute for sugar, and to some extent, will help stabilize sugar level in blood. And it's also nature's anti-biotic.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:07 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Thank you. Yeah I like honey... I thought organic. My issue isn't really sweets, just starches in general. Potatos at night, and the next day sends my sugar through the roof.

Thanks.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:30 PM EDT
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Hekofawoman

Dragon - I was so thrilled to see you were on the tracker and back:) I am so proud of you and the changes you are making. Never give up on yourself. Yes, I agree there are many obstacles to overcome. I wonder if your new office hasn't been but a blessing in disguise. Ya know, if you had been on the computer, you might still be were you were. You have been given advantages few of us get, @!$%# a gym where you work and showers, holly @!$%#.lol I for one know I spend way too much time on the computer, at work, at home -whenever I'm bored. I got really mad and frustrated lately when my home computer started acting up as if it were talking back to me like "hey there woman, why don't cha lay off the keys and watch a movie or get out or something, quit banging me and find something else to "bang." Laughing, if it could talk, it would be right!!!

I think I will ban my computer at home for a couple of weeks (not work thought) I'd never get through it...lol) and see what happens, maybe I'd put the cigs down long enough to go for a walk at least. Love ya woman, Hekkie:) Keep up the good work. I know when I don't have the discipline to do it myself, something usually steps in to change that for me. You have been blessed:)

  • 8 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:13 PM EDT
DragonWoman

don't do all things at once... girl you will want to rip your hair out. My mom gave up smoking in 2002... she still wants them.

Can't promise to be on here all the time, but I will try. Facebook has been sucking the time out of me. This may be an addiction that will be hard to break. Too many damn games.

Got Roadrunner for the computer and a sware the cyote caught it. Time Warner is pissing me off.

Great seeing you again. )))hugs(((

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:34 PM EDT
Hekofawoman

Dragon, you cannot know HOW MUCH I MISS YOUR ASS ( no pun intended)lol Woman, I miss you coming up behind me and defending me, although I've gotten stronger, see there is a purpose for everything....lol I have Time Warner also, and they are a total rip off, but I have no choice....least I hook up with the Satellite people...argggg, more change. Yea, the smoking has got to go....truly.. Tell ya what, you keep doing what your doing and I'll quit and do what your doing...is it a deal? I want to make a bet that we can both "do" it! Lovers you so much, Hek

If anything ever changes in your life, I told you, you always have a place with me.......keep that in the back of your mind child.....there is always a way out and a way back:) Lovers you much, Hekkie I got plenty of wine, but not much time and bring your own clothes, towels are free.........I am so stinkin proud of you woman!

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:41 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Aww Hek I really wish I could move down there. I can not tell you how many are leaving NY.

I do love my state, just fustraiting... Ya know....

I can not explain in words why I feel I need to take care of my family. They piss me off most days. It is a co-dependency, but I can not just leave.

But if ever I do, I have a southern friend I will surly come see.

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:51 PM EDT
Hekofawoman

Always:) Well.......a visit would be nice! I do understand your committment to your family. While I may have ousted the girls from the house, they are a huge part of my life and always will be. Things between us is even better then ever. So yea, I do know where your coming from, family is afterall what binds us.

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:21 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Feels too much like an obligation right now, but yes there are some pretty cool moments. Not looking forward to grocery shopping in a few hours. It is a tug of war with mom when we go.

Good news, blood sugar has started out better the last two days. Funny thing is I have not been working out... just house work.

I had one day with the trainer about a month ago. When we did the interview she asked me my goal. And really I need to be resonable. I simply want to stop taking these damn meds and get my life in control. There may be little "baby" steps to get to that.

One foot at a time.....

  • 3 votes
#3.5 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:28 AM EDT
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D DeMilo

it's good to see you back, DW. I share some of it and understand - I have the body of Buddha - the fat one. if I can help.......

Doug

  • 7 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:30 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Budda has a cute tummy... rubb it once in awhile. Laughter helps.... so does having a way to travel in the mind... especially walking to work.

I took today off. One day a week. (well the work week... LOL) I will walk to work tomorrow and work out.

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:35 PM EDT
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mstanley2265

Nice to meet you...my BF is dealing with a some of your issues...she told me there's a website that you put in the ingrediants that a receipe calls for and it gives you the substitutes to make that receipe to one that diabetics and people watching their diet can eat...I'll try and remember to ask her...we have senior moments lol she says she's found some really tasty ones.

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:08 PM EDT
DragonWoman

I have acers of cook books... I just have to practice.... it takes one change at a time. And you just get past the ooops moments. Look forward to your receipe.

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:37 PM EDT
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Matti Viikate

Don't get me wrong....

............I miss Newsvine like hell

I can totally get that, i know how it feels and why. It is totally not about addiction , it is purely right thing for right reasons. I meant to use normal letters here, but these got stuck, and I'm in a hurry, so sorry about that.

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:07 AM EDT
DragonWoman

I don't get offended by darker letters. There is something great about Newsvine. I wish I could do this at work. I get all worked up with the morning work out and then park my ass in front of a network of computers.... and just stare. So I have gone back to working on art. I call it doodling, so no one gets too upset. I am working out some ideas. It is mostly geometrical. As I work out some things I will post.

BTW my new avitar is one of the more successful images.

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:40 PM EDT
Matti Viikate

That avatar is good.

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Thank you.

Weekend is finally here!!! So I am going to try and get some things done.

  • 2 votes
#6.3 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
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Kimberly-430040

Dragon I am soo proud of you! Wow 165! Amazing...you are my new hero! I have been battling with the last 35 to 40 lbs forever it seems. You must feel so much better. I know there are still some problems but hang in there you are amazing.

Ohhh by the way I wish I could walk with you....everyday!

What an inspiration, thank you for being soo transparent. I needed to be encouraged and inspired by your story.

  • 5 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:39 PM EDT
DragonWoman

165!!!! OH damn it all.... my editing skills suck... ok... you all can pile on as I screwed up.... it is 365.... I wish 165 in 3 months time.... LOL.

Kim thank you though.... got to go back and fix that stupid oops!

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:43 PM EDT
Kimberly-430040

That's OK that is still a very large loss! =) You can do this!!!! Studies have shown that even losing 15-20 pounds drastically improves ones health! I'm still very proud of you!!!

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:10 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Thank you. I am proud of me today. I kept it good. I dropped cheese from my diet. Scrambled eggs and oatmeal for breakfast. Soup and 1/2 sandwich for lunch. My blood sugar went from 200+ this morning to 133 before lunch and 145 after lunch. So I am happy today.

Thank you Kimberly

  • 3 votes
#7.3 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:03 PM EDT
Kimberly-430040

Welcome Dragon.

Cheese is my ultimate downfall. I know pretty soon it is going to have to go if the rest of this is coming off. =( I keep telling myself the vitamin D I get from it is worth it, but I think I'm going to have to let it go...

  • 2 votes
#7.4 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
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K-joy

D-

You are doing a great job, don't give up. When you get fustrated, let that be your motivation to work even harder. I recently started a part time job in a spa / fitness center. I see a lot of different people working out everyday and the ones that are the most successful are the ones that don't let one bad day keep them away from the walking machine!~ lol. Keep it up, girl!

  • 5 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:16 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Thank you =)

  • 1 vote
#8.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:45 PM EDT
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Holly-348328

Dragon-

I love what you had to say in your story. You are an inspiration to all of us. Taking off all that weight must be very liberating. My aunt had bypass surgery and she lost over 100 pounds, but she had three cosmetic surgeries after that to get the excess skin taken off. She spends an hour doing her makeup to hide the scars.

Take care and I wish you much continued success.

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:19 PM EDT
DragonWoman

There is my fear. I know I also have to try and save some money for the surgery. I won't do the bypass. I think by working on weights I can build some muscle and tone to help with skin issues.

If I lose .....

no.... when I lose over 200 lbs (for those who did not catch my mistake, I am not 165lbs)...

WHEN I lose 200+ lbs, I will ware what ever scars I have as a badge of honor.

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:48 PM EDT
Sue-715551

there are actually places, that will pay you for your ummm extra skin and stuff. ya might want to look into that.

  • 4 votes
#9.2 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:30 AM EDT
Kimberly-430040

If I lose ..... no.... when I lose over 200 lbs (for those who did not catch my mistake, I am not 165lbs)...

There you go!!! Keep it positive even in your thoughts and speech! =D

  • 5 votes
#9.3 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:11 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Who will pay me for skin? You mean for skin grafts (like locks of love)?

  • 3 votes
#9.4 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:05 PM EDT
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Hekofawoman

Keep up the great work woman, you have always inspired me to be better then I am! Hek If you were a "man" I'd marry your ass.......and I don't say that lightly. You know me. Hekkie (A penis just somehow has to be involved) lol

  • 5 votes
Reply#10 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:51 PM EDT
DragonWoman

)))hugs((

I will pop by again.

  • 2 votes
#10.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT
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jwc2blue

Hey DW. Good to see you, even if there is currently less of you to see!

Keep it up honey. It's not easy, it's not as rewarding as you might wish, but you're doing good for yourself. That's what counts.

Two little things about your article that caught my eye.

Forget what you where thinking about on your walk by the end of the day? Get a small pocket tape recorder. Don't worry about looking odd talking into it while walking, people are walking around apparently talking to themselves until you notice the earpiece. (even then you can't be certain!)

Work computer. Can't you shrink the window down? Maybe not enough I guess.

  • 5 votes
Reply#11 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:27 AM EDT
DragonWoman

Uh ... I could shrink it a little, but the one I work on is a 19 inch and I sware the Help Desk is sitting right behind my shoulder. Someone told on me when I was playing Spider Solitar.

I bring my art work. I should do some writing by hand there as well

The tape recorder is a pretty good idea.

  • 3 votes
#11.1 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:07 PM EDT
jwc2blue

Someone told on me when I was playing Spider Solitar.

Ouch. Good thing you've got friends here babe.

  • 4 votes
#11.2 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:59 PM EDT
DragonWoman

Yeah... I thought so too.

  • 1 vote
#11.3 - Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT
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neenie1991

It's so good to see you DW! Thank you for sharing your journey, even if we don't see you as much it sounds like you are on a path that is changing your health and life, a good thing! I love your avatar by the way. Changes and self-discovery - sometimes painful, sometimes life changing and very rewarding.

jwc is right, people won't know what you're doing. Could be on the phone, or whatever - who cares?! You are taking care of the most important person in your life. I'm proud of you.

))))hugs((((

  • 4 votes
Reply#12 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:15 AM EDT
DragonWoman

Thank you neenie...

I have the best friends here... You all are great =}

  • 3 votes
#12.1 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
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anonymous-1077600

dw keep on trying don't give up. Congrats on your work out that is a lot of work also remember you are turning some of the fat into muscle and muscle weighs more than fat, so while you are at this weight, with your gym workout some of the fat is now muscle. how are your inches doing? I bet better.

  • 2 votes
Reply#13 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:09 PM EDT
DragonWoman

You know I need to buy one of those tape measures.

I can say the pants feel different. Which is a plus. I have issues with the cycle machine and it has to do with the legs. The same with the eliptical. They are machines I am working up to.

  • 2 votes
#13.1 - Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:57 PM EDT
anonymous-1077600

Just keep trying, sounds like you are doing more than most!

  • 2 votes
#13.2 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:20 AM EDT
DragonWoman

Thanks

  • 2 votes
#13.3 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:28 AM EDT
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DragonWoman

Anyone interested in the subject matter of weight loss, I have a seed:

Blogging Helps Jasmine Maintain a 200-Pound Weight Loss .

  • 5 votes
Reply#14 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:31 AM EDT
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